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    Default "I would've went to jail for fucking those young bitches."-SPM in '99

    This is probaly gonna have me catching some hate, but I've shyed away from hurting anyones feelings and speaking my mind....

    But real talk, how does anyone still think SPM is innocent?
    I'm opening this up for serious discussion, i mean i could wrong so if so...
    Someone explain this to me.
    How does anyone think he is innocent or scream free SPM.

    I can understand being a fan. I said free 2pac, Free Pimp C, Free Z-ro, Free Mike D, Free Grace....and so on....

    Z-ro is one of my favorite artist, but for example if his girl was found dead...and he was found feet away from here with a knife in hand and her blood all over her.

    I'd be a dumb ass not to admit he was guilty lol

    So i mean what the fucc?
    Thats an exact qoute...
    "One more year in high school and I would've went to jail for fucking all those little young bitches."
    He saidIn 1999, while talking about his dropping out of school at the age of 17, Coy tells Houston Press contributor Craig D. Lindsey.


    I fucks with SPM's music, dont get me wrong. That Mary Go Round is one of my favorite joints.

    So i mean, you'd be doing me a favor if you convinced me he was innocent.

    But i havent seen, heard or read ONE piece of evidence saying he was innocent.

    Yet all the facts are a no brainer....


    A total of eight girls and young women, the youngest nine years old, have said to have had sexual contact with him while they were underage.
    One or two accusers possibly trying to get some money, but that many?



    In July 2001, 20-year-old Jill Odom files a lawsuit against Carlos Coy asking that he be declared the legal father of her son, Jordan Dominique Odom. Odom was only 13 when she began the relationship with Coy and only 14 when she gave birth. During their relationship, Coy, in his early twenties, knew Odom was in seventh grade. Paternity tests later prove that Coy is the boy's father.

    On September 1, 2001, a nine-year-old playmate of Coy's six-year-old daughter Carley spends the night at the Coy home. Sometime during the night, the girl, later called Jane Doe, says she doesn't feel well and asks to be taken home. Coy drives her home, sitting down to have menudo with her grandparents when they arrive. The girl's parents are close friends of the Coy family.

    On September 25, 2001, Carlos Coy is arrested and charged with aggravated sexual assault of Jane Doe, who claims Coy entered the bedroom where she was sleeping with Carley Coy and molested her, licking her vaginal area.

    On March 6, 2002, the Harris County District Attorney's office files additional sexual assault charges against Coy, alleging that on February 3, Coy, who was awaiting the Jane Doe trial, and some friends picked up two 14-year-old female fans and took them to a motel in North Houston. Coy says nothing sexual took place during the visit, claiming that he napped in the hotel room alone while the rest of the group went to a local cafˇ, but one girl claims she had had sex with the rapper. Coy turns himself in on March 7 and his bond is revoked.



    Music is one thing, but the thought of this fool runnin free on Houston streets is something entirely different. I've still got friends and family in the houston area.....Cousins who are under age.

    What if that was your lil sister or cousin?
    I was around during this controversy and listened to SPM back in the day. I remember everything, and after hearing about all the facts then, I still feel as I felt back in the day. His sentence was too damn light. Now, especially now, having grown and become father.

    I think anyone still trying to support him and scream free SPM has got to either be young minded themselves, or doesnt exactly know the whole story and the facts.

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    i don't know anything about dat situation and i honestly don't even listen to spm but from reading dis he's obviously guilty lol

    as for t.i. im happy he only went to a mental hospital and not jail (as most people assume hes in) cuz after wat happened to philant he was just paranoid and didn't want to lose another friend.

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    FUCK SPM!! lol

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    He sure got around...

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    A friend of SPM's told their side of the story on here or some other site, i don't remember. Basically it was like this: The mother of the girl he "raped," well she was the wife of one of his homies and they had fucked around while the dude was in jail. Whenever SPM started blowing up around houston, she started blackmailing him. When he stopped paying her, that's when she came up with the story of him raping her daughter. As for the others that's hard to explain. The only explanation I can think of is some gutter bitches will do anything for money. So personally I think there's a chance he didn't do it. Probably more likely that he did, but I hope not. And just because there's a chance I still bump his music, unlike Sicx. That dude plead guilty to raping his own daughter and like 50 other counts of child rape and porn. When I found that out I never listened to him again cuz that's just disgusting.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gambino View Post
    Z-ro is one of my favorite artist, but for example if his girl was found dead...and he was found feet away from here with a knife in hand and her blood all over her.
    Have you ever heard of Big Lurch... a rapper from houston who got shermed out and ate his girlfriend... haha
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-WsDX7bjtU

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    yeah, on dopehouserecords.com years ago they had a whole rebuttal. I dont think he did shit.

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    there was a thread about this, with some good comments, you should check it out, a lot of FREE-SPM'ers with their story of what happened

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    the little girl who said ate her out said in court that she may have been dreaming the other ones i dont know enuff about to argue even if he did or didnt i still like his music i dont even really say free so and so cause it aint like its gona even help

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    ok ok im here lol


    sebastieon ur right she did say she may have been dreamin he was never accused of rapin her thru intercourse but she said he orally raped her. and gambino u say show me the facts that he is inoccent, well show me the evidence where he's guilty. there was none just the girls testimony, no dna or anything and to get 40 to life for this is ridduculus i mean a nfl player can kill a man with under the influence and get thirty days wow, where is the justice. I am a father of a seven yr ol lil girl and I dont know what I would do if she was involved like this, so with that I say free spm until there is some real evidence and if he did do it fry his ass!

    but until then FREE S.P.M.


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    Daaamn good thread crazy sht didn't kno it was so many girls . I dnt say free spm but no one likes jail ya feel
    "watch my fifteens stutta"

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    ya i mean its a fucked up thing all around spm was kind of like the mexican pac to me and to alot of people and its hard to except all of it ya know, but when c-murder killed that dude and then tried to kill the other peeps everyone was yellin free c-murder, so is it ok to murder someone else


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    murder is one thing homie, sometimes its justifiable.

    but rape.....? cmon man that shits just straight wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by swhtx713 View Post
    I should ban every spm fan

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEXAS_MADE View Post
    murder is one thing homie, sometimes its justifiable.

    but rape.....? cmon man that shits just straight wrong
    I understand what ur sayin but kinfo really I would rather my moms get raped than get murked, dont get me wrong I hate child molesters but u cant say murder is not as bad than alleged rape

    thats all im sayin

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    idk if ur readin dis right gam, i think he meant more of how he was fuckin around wit younger bitches while he was still able to. after u turn 18 shit jus stops n u gotta wait or find someone legal.

    but i dont say hes innocent, i dont know da man n i wasnt der to say he didnt do it. but like everybody else say how can u be so sure if der aint DNA evidence he did something besides da lil boy bein his? but niggas can always be fooled into thinkin she was legal. look at r. kelly, is he a child molester? or is he someone who got mixed up in some shit by mistake?(by da way wut happened wit dat shit?)

    so if u can prove hes guilty i'll say hes a raper molester wutever. but if ders not hard evidence he did it den i have to say he didnt do it
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    See thats the thing though, it was MORE than just one lil girl....

    The nigga made a song laughing and basically bragging about it.

    Of course dopehouse said it was long before he was locked up.
    Thats to be expected.....

    But even if that was the case...If he was making songs about it, it was on his mind.


    The other everyone keeps saying is the fact that they're is no proof he's guilty....
    That excuse shouldnt get you very far with all respect.

    The truth is they're isnt ANY proof that he's innocent.

    That being said, let me go back to my first post and point that with no concrete proof either way. All the facts that we do know about point to him being guilty.



    Wake up
    If Eminem's Kim was found dead, and Eminem was in the next room with a knife.
    Even if no blood or fingerprints. Due to his songs and what he's about her, he'd probaly be the number one suspect....
    Tech9nine has raped about eating dead babies....
    Thats sick, but stay with me a second lol
    If they're was a pile of half eaten babies found blocks away from the nigga....He's probaly be guilty....

    If Snoop Dogg was pulled over and arrested with a large amount of weed...

    Damn it he's probably guilty lol

    You get my point?



    SPM aside from the song or 2 he did........
    Aside from the interviews he done about fuccing under aged girls..
    & Aside from the 8-9 other seperate girls who have stepped foward and admited it.


    It just seems clear as hell to me. If you've got to be a brain washed or a lil too big a fan of the man to think he's innocent.

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    I'm with Gambino on this one. There's no way you get that many girls saying he did something if he really didn't. There was enough evidence to convict him, I think it just becomes common sense. But I know some of his diehard fans will never admit that he did anything wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEXAS_MADE View Post
    murder is one thing homie, sometimes its justifiable.

    but rape.....? cmon man that shits just straight wrong
    Yeah if you kill someone their suffering is over but a rape victim has to live with that the rest of their lives. Especially if they're a child and they can't understand what happened to them. An ordinary person can be driven to murder but anyone who's capable of raping a child is a straight up pervert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEXAS_MADE View Post
    murder is one thing homie, sometimes its justifiable.

    but rape.....? cmon man that shits just straight wrong
    Yeah if you kill someone their suffering is over but a rape victim has to live with that the rest of their lives. Especially if they're a child and they can't understand what happened to them. An ordinary person can be driven to murder but anyone who's capable of raping a child is straight fucked up.

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    Even if he didn't eat out that little girl he should be in prison for all the other underage girls he was fuckin with.

    Besides being a child molester his music fuckin sucks.

    I wish Big Lurch wasn't in prison or could atleast record some new music cuz that mothafucka goes off! My favorite rapper from Dallas to be honest, besides D.O.C. ,anyways Leave that wet alone!


    and leave them lil' girls alone too!

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    Its crazy because I was at jury duty today, and a guy was being prosecuted for the same shit. I wasnt picked to be a jurior so I wont know if the dude will be guilty, but fuck him though.

    Thats the way I feel about that fool SPM. I use to jam that guys music like crazy. Bought all that fools music. Since I heard that shit its fuck that fool. Just because there wasnt one Mexican on the jury panel dont mean shit. He was accused by so many people for rape, and like many pointed out you just dont get randomly accused for the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illmatic7 View Post
    He was accused by so many people for rape, and like many pointed out you just dont get randomly accused for the same thing.
    But see... thats part of why I think he could be innocent... people don't commit so many crimes without leaving evidence behind unless they're trying not to get caught. I think this one chick started it all saying she was gonna get rich off the civil case and all the others followed. I mean these weren't nice young ladies these were hoes and strippers that lied about their age and shit. I've almost gotten into some shit because of stupid girls lying about their ages so I have no sympathy for that.

    At the very least they need to give him an appeal. Everyone deserves an appeal and I think the only reason they haven't is cuz most of their shit shouldn't have stood up in court anyway.

    Plus didn't all those females lose the civil cases? OJ Simpson lost the civil case for murder even though he got off on the criminal charge. If there had been enough evidence for SPM they should have had no trouble convicting him twice, especially since it's easier to get a judgement in civil court.

    I'm not saying that he for sure didn't do it but there's a lot of evidence either way... But at the very least he deserves an appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hjzlsg View Post
    I'm not saying that he for sure didn't do it but there's a lot of evidence either way... But at the very least he deserves an appeal.
    I feel you

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    Oh come on, he obviously did it. People just aren't directly affected by the tragedy of rape so they don't take it seriously. Until he's locked up for good, these women and girls won't ever have any peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambino View Post
    See thats the thing though, it was MORE than just one lil girl....

    The nigga made a song laughing and basically bragging about it.

    Of course dopehouse said it was long before he was locked up.
    Thats to be expected.....

    But even if that was the case...If he was making songs about it, it was on his mind.


    The other everyone keeps saying is the fact that they're is no proof he's guilty....
    That excuse shouldnt get you very far with all respect.

    The truth is they're isnt ANY proof that he's innocent.

    That being said, let me go back to my first post and point that with no concrete proof either way. All the facts that we do know about point to him being guilty.



    Wake up
    If Eminem's Kim was found dead, and Eminem was in the next room with a knife.
    Even if no blood or fingerprints. Due to his songs and what he's about her, he'd probaly be the number one suspect....
    Tech9nine has raped about eating dead babies....
    Thats sick, but stay with me a second lol
    If they're was a pile of half eaten babies found blocks away from the nigga....He's probaly be guilty....

    If Snoop Dogg was pulled over and arrested with a large amount of weed...

    Damn it he's probably guilty lol

    You get my point?



    SPM aside from the song or 2 he did........
    Aside from the interviews he done about fuccing under aged girls..
    & Aside from the 8-9 other seperate girls who have stepped foward and admited it.


    It just seems clear as hell to me. If you've got to be a brain washed or a lil too big a fan of the man to think he's innocent.
    OK I understand ur thoughts and i respect them the people that dont like spm ur opionion is whateve. The song ur referin to is when he was sixteen and the girl was 13 i think, she got pregnent, so like ten yrs later she came forward and said he raped her, thats how this all started. then u have his daughters friend that came over and she says he licked her vaginal area. the other six girls ur refirin to lost there civil cases and they never pursued charges, the only one he is charged with and is servin 40 to life is the one girl that started cryin on the stand and said she couldnt member and it might of been a dream.


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    I would've went to jail for fucking those young bitches."-SPM in '99
    And also Gambino if ur going to quote someone please show the whole quote, cause u made him look like he was admitin he molested girls!

    so people of this forum here is the whole quote

    "In 1999, while talking about his dropping out of school at the age of 17, Coy tells Houston Press contributor Craig D. Lindsey, "One more year in high school and I would've went to jail for ******* all those little young bitches."

    He was braggin about all the girls he fucked when he was in high school like most of us did when we were in high school!

    just wanted to clear the thread name a lil thanks

    this is a good debate though

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    aight everyone has good points...
    But theres one big ass thang that everyone knows is there
    but ppl just want to see the man fry

    Wassap Wit That Reasonable Doubt!!!

    I Mean c'mon, America is Corrupt. especially Texas.
    all ppl saw was a little girl crying on a stand talkin bout

    "oh protect me, the bad man hurt me, im just a little crying girl etc"

    which i think is a bitch move.

    cause everyone is gonna go for the obvious. "GoDDaMNiT We Gonna Punish GodDaMN SomeBody!!"

    and It Didnt Help that He is a Mexican... and it Didnt help either that He is a Rapper...

    and also...

    i can see how he'd be Guilty too...

    i mean real talk now... if u get stirred up in some shit like that... u may not have done
    what they say u did... but Goddamn u done somethin...
    maybe u played with them too much. maybe u let them get too comfortable.

    maybe u gave em a hug that lasted just a second too long.

    a playful smack on the bottom never hurt nobody
    Or Did It!?!?

    But All in All

    i cant say much for Free SPM

    cause he Got what He Got
    Weather Guilty or Innocent

    he got in that situation on his own. thats his shit.

    i mean errbody tryinta change ppls minds as if we tryinta decide if we gonna let him out or not.

    that nigga aint gonna see the light of day for a long time.
    and that aint my fault so ima let him do his thang.

    i mean it looks like he thriving in prison anyway...

    2 albums outta tha pen and shit. some how.

    and im not mean. but im just saying... its easy to get roped into this bullshit
    one of the most infamous crimes ever...

    i mean c'mon now... Im 18... Young Dumb and full of Cum...
    and its alotta bitches from 18 to like 15 even 14 that either look good and tempt a nigga
    or u think are older...

    im not tryinta justify it... but yall kno wat im talkin bout right...

    anywho

    How tha Hell u gonna try to Compare Rape to Murder...

    smh...

    MURDER....
    Nigga
    MURDER!!!!

    fuckin taking someones life.

    where they aint gonna wake up anymore. Ever.

    never see the fam again

    no more chillin wit friends.

    what if they have kids...

    what if they have a spouse?

    no more...

    but murder is better than rape huh???

    man i dont care who u are or what u think or what u have to say to me...

    ur a stupid Mo'Succa if u even think that theres a crime worse than murder
    except maybe prolonged torture.

    the only difference is. Murder IS justifyable sometimes.

    where as Rape is Never justifyable.

    but still the person can still run around and live...
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    ^but rape IS prolonged torture... psychological torture... you have to think about and deal with that shit for the rest of your life. I dunno if I were a female and I had to choose I'd rather get murdered than raped but that's just me.

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    but dont sex feel good tho?

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    man thats just stupid to say u rather get murked than raped that is just retarded and i mean no disrespect but dam come on now think bout what u just said, my sister was molested for a year by some uncle of mine and ya it messed with her for a long time and im sure it still does but she got 2 kids and a husband now, trust me we all includin her are happy she is still here with us.

    smh rather get murdered wow


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    der aint no comin back from death hommies, make ur decisions wisely cuz u can always get to counselin for dat shit n get help.
    pain n sufferin, jus an everday thang

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    True dat

    and u can be like
    "yea. they couldnt stand the fact of me not wantin them so they raped me. i must be fine!"

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    lol dont know if they feel like that but shit its one way to look at it i guess
    lol

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    they never really had enough evidence to convict him of rape, what really damned him was his past, but everybody should know that he was railroaded by the Texas Justice System, shit they even said it in an article in the Houston Chronicle a couple of days after he was sentenced

    i mean seriously, ask yourself this one question....what child molestor gets 40+ years on his 1st conviction? there are cats that have done the same shit that only did a couple of years and are walking around free as a bird right now, yet somehow SPM gets 40+ with no possibility of parole?

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    thank u finally someone understands I mean u got an NFL player runs some dude over while he's drunk and kills him and he gets 30 days in jail come on now u gonna sit there and tell me he should get forty years for something they have no hard evidence on come on spm fan or not ya'll know thats fucked up regadless


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    [QUOTE=roundryan;34078]

    i mean seriously, ask yourself this one question....what child molestor gets 40+ years on his 1st conviction? QUOTE]

    The kind that boast and brags about it in a song lol
    Not to mention the history he's already had...
    Thats just sick homie, i dont care who your favorite rapper is.

    Honestly i'm sick of seeing celebrities and athletes getting away with things because of who they are. So that excuse and reasoning gets no where.
    Its about time, even thought it was a few years back.....


    Lil Keke is my favorite living rapper right along with Z-ro....
    But if they did some sick shit things like that, it wouldnt matter. Guilt is guilt.

    I still see a whole lot of nothing being said in his defense with all respect.

    Thats what i was looking for. Like i said i was an SPM fan.....I figured him still having so much support would have some kind of sense or logical reason behind it other than just being your favorite rapper.
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    [QUOTE=Gambino;34085]
    Quote Originally Posted by roundryan View Post

    i mean seriously, ask yourself this one question....what child molestor gets 40+ years on his 1st conviction? QUOTE]

    The kind that boast and brags about it in a song lol
    Thats just sick homie, i dont care who your favorite rapper is.

    Lil Keke is my favorite living rapper right along with Z-ro....
    But if they did some sick shit things like that, it wouldnt matter. Guilt is guilt.

    I still see a whole lot of nothing being said in his defense with all respect.

    Thats what i was looking for. Like i said i was an SPM fan.....I figured him still having so much support would have some kind of sense or logical reason behind it other than just being your favorite rapper.
    what more do you need? they caught the little girl lying on the stand while testifying, the facts about who the mother of the kid was and how she put her own daughter up to lying came out also and yet somehow SPM wont see the light of day again because of some well known lies, then you had all those other hood rats coming forward lying on dude about how he molested them because they thought they were gonna come up on a meal ticket...same thing happened to Bill Clinton

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    Quote Originally Posted by THRILL View Post
    aight everyone has good points...
    But theres one big ass thang that everyone knows is there
    but ppl just want to see the man fry

    Wassap Wit That Reasonable Doubt!!!

    I Mean c'mon, America is Corrupt. especially Texas.
    all ppl saw was a little girl crying on a stand talkin bout

    "oh protect me, the bad man hurt me, im just a little crying girl etc"

    which i think is a bitch move.

    cause everyone is gonna go for the obvious. "GoDDaMNiT We Gonna Punish GodDaMN SomeBody!!"

    and It Didnt Help that He is a Mexican... and it Didnt help either that He is a Rapper...

    and also...

    i can see how he'd be Guilty too...

    i mean real talk now... if u get stirred up in some shit like that... u may not have done
    what they say u did... but Goddamn u done somethin...
    maybe u played with them too much. maybe u let them get too comfortable.

    maybe u gave em a hug that lasted just a second too long.

    a playful smack on the bottom never hurt nobody
    Or Did It!?!?

    But All in All

    i cant say much for Free SPM

    cause he Got what He Got
    Weather Guilty or Innocent

    he got in that situation on his own. thats his shit.

    i mean errbody tryinta change ppls minds as if we tryinta decide if we gonna let him out or not.

    that nigga aint gonna see the light of day for a long time.
    and that aint my fault so ima let him do his thang.

    i mean it looks like he thriving in prison anyway...

    2 albums outta tha pen and shit. some how.

    and im not mean. but im just saying... its easy to get roped into this bullshit
    one of the most infamous crimes ever...

    i mean c'mon now... Im 18... Young Dumb and full of Cum...
    and its alotta bitches from 18 to like 15 even 14 that either look good and tempt a nigga
    or u think are older...

    im not tryinta justify it... but yall kno wat im talkin bout right...

    anywho

    How tha Hell u gonna try to Compare Rape to Murder...

    smh...

    MURDER....
    Nigga
    MURDER!!!!

    fuckin taking someones life.

    where they aint gonna wake up anymore. Ever.

    never see the fam again

    no more chillin wit friends.

    what if they have kids...

    what if they have a spouse?

    no more...

    but murder is better than rape huh???

    man i dont care who u are or what u think or what u have to say to me...

    ur a stupid Mo'Succa if u even think that theres a crime worse than murder
    except maybe prolonged torture.

    the only difference is. Murder IS justifyable sometimes.

    where as Rape is Never justifyable.

    but still the person can still run around and live...

    and i hear what you sayin cuzz....

    I feel you on that. I was there as well.....Young and not giving a fucc.
    I've sting got family and friends livin that lifestyle.

    Thats all good and well. I dont judge that, but you've got to know with common sense that by doing that, there is a slim chance your gonna be caught and gonna have to pay for it it.

    Do the crime, be ready to do the time. Most learn that as children...

    This case being the perfect example.

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    gAMBINO WHAT DO U WANT NOBODY GOT LIKE A VIDEO TAPE OF SOMEONE ELSE TOUCHIN THAT GIRL. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE HE DIDNT DO IT, THATS WHY THE USA HAS THE THING CALLED INNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY AND IN MY MIND IT WASNT PROVEN.

    AND GIVE ME SOME ANSWERS TO UR POSTS OK

    FIRST- EXPLAIN TO ME WHY U THINK HE IS BRAGGIN ABOUT IT SHOW ME the song or interview or anything were he brags about it.

    second show me where any one got forty years without parole for sexual assault not rape or sodomy just charged with sexual assault

    sorry for the caps forgot they were on

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    FREE THAT GOTDAM MEXICAN

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    ^^^^co-sign...

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    and btw it dont matter how old u are, u can get charged with child molestation.

    a few months ago i was in jail with this one 17 year old kid

    he told me that he got arrested for agravated sexual assault of a minor.
    he had a $400,000 bail
    and he told me what happened was. this 16 year old chick was at his house
    and his homies was runnin whodoo on her.

    and like iono his mom or sister or someone found out and called the cops. or somethin.

    but yea. thats bullshit...

    even if he did fuck her. hes 17 and shes 16. what kinda harm is there in that?


    but i told him. man if i was u id be scared then a mother fucker.

    cause im sure the we can ALL agree. the law dont give a motherfuck about anyone. to them ur just a number on a paper.
    not even a name. just a number and an accusation...
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